One of the very important things to keep in mind when we think about daily scrums is that daily scums help team finish work. It helps them get across the finish line. it helps him to actually get to done. We've talked about working as a team, we've talk about not being in individual silos. If we're meeting up in a daily Scrum and we are not working in that way, then the conversations we have in the daily are vital. If we're all looking at our phones while everyone else is speaking, we are not working together. Why are we looking our our phone? Because I don't care what someone else's saying. It doesn't impact what I'm going to do today. But if we working as a team, then those conversations become vital. That's something that we have to have in order to get our work done. Its important to understand that route here. How are working? If we want to play this team sport to win, then we've got to get as much over the finish line as possible. When we think about how teams actually talk to each other in a daily Scrum, you don't have to convince a collaborative team that is working as a team, that the daily scrum is important. That's not part of your job. You don't have to do that because the value of the Daily Scrum is intrinsic to that team. They understand that they have do this. And that's all based on just the way that that is team is working.