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#9: Scrum Artifacts with Kert Peterson

July 20, 2022     40 minutes

Brian and Kert talk about the final component of the Scrum Framework - Artifacts. 


The term “artifact” seems a bit strange, doesn’t it? Why would the authors of Scrum include this as a component of the framework? What are the main artifacts that Scrum prescribes? And what are some of the other artifacts that are not required but many teams see as helpful to the running of a Scrum team? In this episode, Brian and Kert will discuss this final component of the Scrum framework in the Scrum Framework series and give you pointers on how to make the most out of the Scrum artifacts.

Listen now to discover: 

3:45 - hear Kert and Brian talk about the roots of this term

6:15 - Kert talks about his experience with documentation working at NASA

9:15 - Kert talks about the two backlogs in Scrum

12:30 - Brian and Kert talk about what level of detail is needed in backlog items

16:12 - Who is the therapist on a Scrum team?

19:00 Is tasking out everything required for Sprint Planning?

23:41 - Kert talks about how Ken Schwaber called Scrum, “The Art of the Possible”

31:27 Brian and Kert talk about the Definition of Done

33:24 Brian talks about a tool to facilitate the creation of a Definition of Done

Listen next time when we’ll be discussing… 

Mike Cohn returns to discuss User Stories with Brian. Mike has literally written the book on User Stories (User Stories Applied) and shares his wealth of experience and knowledge on the subject.

References and resources mentioned in the show

Married at First Site - Lifetime TV Network

Larry Maccherone talks about Kanban Metrics

David A. Koontz’s exercise for creating a Definition of Done

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This episode’s presenters are:

Brian Milner is SVP of coaching and training at Mountain Goat Software. He’s passionate about making a difference in people’s day-to-day work, influenced by his own experience of transitioning to Scrum and seeing improvements in work/life balance, honesty, respect, and the quality of work.

Kert began his professional career as a Software Engineer in NASA's Space Shuttle program, affording him practical insights into the daily challenges faced by engineers, designers, and testers. Driven by the belief that learning unlocks potential, Kert has pioneered educational programs for Dell, Rockwell Collins,, and Capital One Financial. Kert is one of the few trainers world-wide to be actively credentialed as both a Scrum and Kanban trainer by Scrum Alliance and Kanban University, respectively.